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jdives

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Spare Air?
« on: August 05, 2008, 17:33:58 UTC »
Upon occasion, I solo dive.   Also, I would rather dive alone than with an incompetent 'assigned' buddy.   I recently purchased one and tried it out in Cozumel last week at various depths..  Drew hard, but very easy to access and use from a diagonal front clipping.  I plan to use it for emergency when I dive alone, not when I have a reliable and known buddy, not for extra-air.   

 I got a lot of flack for having one from the 'pro's' in Coz.  So...I am wondering what the opinion is from folks who have used it and what some of the issues might be.     
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Re: Spare Air?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2008, 15:24:13 UTC »
Hi jdives,

I most certainly would not recommend a Spare Air rig for solo diving.

Here is a slightly edited piece on Spare Air I wrote for the Dec '00 issue of Undercurrent that lays out some of the concerns:

"Is A Spare Air Worth It? How to ensure you’re not the next victim."

Cylinders providing extra air for emergencies come in three basic
forms: A small bailout bottle (like Spare Air), a pony bottle (a larger
bailout bottle) and independent twins (which technical divers also use
to provide all the gas they need to make a dive).

Ponies, which attach to the main cylinder by various band systems, hold
from 6 to 50 cubic feet of air, although with the larger tanks one might just as well use standard size independent twins.

Small bailout bottles, like Spare Air, come in sizes from a tiny 1.2 cu. ft. to Spare Air ’s 6 cu. ft. “600-Twin,” and typically are connected to the BC via Velcro straps, holsters or lanyards. Spare Air sells three rigs. The least expensive 3 cu. ft. lists for nearly $300 and the Twin approaches $500 (a sum that can also buy you a decent pony rigs or independent doubles set-up and lots more air). The small Spare Air cylinder comes with a built-in regulator. For deeper recreational diving, and some technical diving, a pony bottle is the best bet. The question here is whether there is a value, at all, to the Spare Air.

For dives above 60 feet, the largest Spare Air should suffice for a true emergency ascent. Spare Air advertises 30 surface breaths for the
1.7-cu. ft. unit, 57 for the 3 cu. ft. and 144 for the Twin 3-cu. ft. set-up.
But, that’s on the surface. What about in an emergency, when one is
down a few atmospheres and breathing hard? Depending on breathing rate, to ascend from 60 feet at a brisk 60 feet per minimum without a safety
stop requires anywhere from 2-7 cu. ft. of air. From 100 feet, it’s from
about 3 cu. ft. to more than 12 cu. ft.

Given the likelihood that consumption rates will be greatly elevated in
an emergency out-of-air-situation, the average diver could expect to
have just enough air to make it quickly and directly to the surface from
around 60 feet. Surely there is something to be said for this

Of course, such an ascent rate without a safety stop is an open invitation
to DCS. For a slower ascent and 15-ft. safety stop for three minutes,
you’ll need proportionately more air, far more than afforded by the most generous Spare Air at any depth. For this reason, it is important that a diver carrying a Spare Air not be lulled into a false sense of security. Once in trouble, he will have scant time to solve problems or even make himself positively buoyant.

Some in the dive community who have tried a Spare Air, complain about the lack of it. Leaking from the regulator is the most frequently heard disgruntlement. Bob Parks told Undercurrent that his Spare Air lost air between dives. “While on a live-aboard last year, the spare air would lose about one quarter of its contents over a period of about four hours. I sent it back to the office in Huntington Beach, CA and they fixed the problem, gratis.”

Don Latta (Chicago) said his “Spare Air would fill and seemed okay, but the pin gauge would show half full at the end of the day. Slow leak. Sent unit back; out of warranty and over $100 to repair it. Eight months later I checked before a trip and a faster audible leak this time. Spare Air fixed it for half price and says my problem is that I am not storing with bottle pressurized. After I return from the trip, I fill the bottle at the dive
shop, however, before my next trip the bottle is empty again. I fill it at a shop to check integrity; and air comes out almost as fast as it is going in. Along the line, I lost the little screw that acts as a relief valve on the filler gadget and d i d n ’t have time to locate the part; I bought a second filler for $45. Not a good experience for a pretty cheap guy, but mainly I got to the point were I just didn’t trust the thing. Incidentally, both dive shops I deal with refuse to carry the things or be involved in repairs. ”

Because some shops don’t want to deal with Spare Air, this often means
the inconvenience of sending it back to the manufacturer, with shipping
and handling charges both ways going on your tab. Dean Michaels, who
works in Florida, says, “I’ve been repairing Spare Airs for three years and have seen hundreds of units that wouldn’t hold air, even after they just got back from servicing. In all but a few cases it was a matter of lack of service by the owner (“if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”) or poor service by someone who didn’t have a clue what to do. Most people seem to think a Spare Air requires the same amount of service their tank and valve needs (none). That ’s not the case. It is a special use tool that needs to be checked regularly and serviced before it is needed by someone that knows what they’re doing . ”

So, if you don’t want to tote a Spare Air, consider one other source
of air for an emergency: your BC. Air in the BC from the tank contains
21% 02 and 16% if orally inflated. Studies by the YMCA show that
air added to a BC can be rebreathed 13 times or more without becoming
overly hungry for fresh air. While the technique is not difficult, it does
require some brief instruction and practice. Interested readers are directed to the September 1999 issue of Undercurrent for a detailed description of the technique.

Remember, these devices and techniques are nothing more than
emergency sources, and not ways to extend dive times. The confidence
provided by carrying an alternate air source does not absolve the diver from
monitoring his air supply. There is no reason to run out of air in non-emergencies, air that is your buddy’s as well as yours. -Doc Vikingo"

You may wish to contact SDI (http://www.tdisdi.com/index.php?did=18&site=1), which offers a solo cert, to get their take on redundant gas systems

Helpful?

Regards,

DocVikingo

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Re: Spare Air?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2008, 15:44:29 UTC »
Doc V  THANKS for the very thorough and  helpful response.  Reminds me of the 'lecture' I received from Bill Horn, the owner of Aqua Safari in Coz. 

I don't know the technique for breathing from BC but will check out the 9/99 Undercurrent issue as you suggested. 

BTW, I got 44 breaths at 30', and 3 cu had 50% air remaining.  Of course, this was not under stress (except pressure from the dm as he watched, hands-on-hips, in wonderment of the crazy lady).  I whole heartedly concur that at 60', under stress of a blown o-ring, the spare air will be consumed much more rapidly.

I reckon it is time to take the SDI Solo course!

Again, I greatly appreciate the prompt and professional response.
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Re: Spare Air?
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2009, 12:01:46 UTC »
Why take a chance!  Go out and invest in a 30 oe 40 cu bottle that will provide you with enough air as well as provide a 3-minute safety, from just about any recreational diving depths.  If your really set on diving solo make sure you cary some form of beacon so people know where you are.  List your dive plan.  Maybe in the long run it would be less expensive to find a buddy and train together.  Last time I looked at the value of my life it was "priceless".

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Re: Spare Air?
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2009, 18:43:46 UTC »
I do not dive locally but only on southern vacations so Pony bottles are not a practical solution for me.  I would not travel without a Spare Air.  On a dive in St. Maarten my primary second stage failed (no air flow) at 50 feet.  Of course this occurred after I had exhaled.  If my Air 2 had not worked, without a redundent source of air, I would have needed to have been very close to my buddy not to be in real trouble.  Just knowing I had my Spare Air assisted me in dealing with the situation properly.  I have made practice ascents at the end of dives to the safety stop (advising the DM in advance) just to make sure I had an idea of how long the air would last and that I was comfortable using it.

I agree with the criticisms of Spair Airs outlined above, but I think having a completely redundent source of air makes sense.  I have had a top regulator that has just been serviced fail catastrophically and I have blown a high pressure hose at depth and watched my tank empty almost instantly.  In neither situation did I actually use my spare air but I can well imagine a situation where a redundent source of air could be a lifesaver.  In some situations it might allow you to get to another diver and share air in a more conventional manner.   

Given the weight restrictions on airlines today, Spare Airs are a practical but imperfect solution for travelling divers.
Steve Moore

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Steve wrote:
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2009, 00:23:55 UTC »
"I have blown a high pressure hose at depth and watched my tank empty almost instantly. "

Are you sure it was a high pressure hose that blew and emptied your tank quickly?  High pressure ports on first stages only have a pinhole size opening to the high pressure hose and air loss from the HP port would be quite slow.  If an inflator hose or intermediate pressure hose to a regulator failed you'd lose gas much more quickly.

 

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